The Hartlib Papers

Title:Copy Extracts In Hand ?, [Dury] To [Hartlib?]
Dating:10 July, 17 July, 7 August, 14 August 1642
Ref:6/4/143A-146B: 146B BLANK
Notes:Turnbull (HDC p229) suggests to Hartlib. copies at 6/4/135, 6/4/139, and partial copy at 6/4/151.
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                   Hague 10. Iuly. 1642.
I am intreated since I came hither to vse my best endevours to move the Prince Elector Palatine to come hither. The grounds are such as to my Iudgement should persuade. I will acquaint yow with the substance thereof & desire your assistance therein. I know that great Preparatives are made for a Party for him in Germany which in due time will shew it selfe if he be not wanting to his owne Cause, & were neerer at hand to negotiate in it for himselfe. I say I know this vpon certaine & authenticall evidences which have bin communicated vnto me & whereof I <yow> shall hereafter <H: bee> more fully informed by him that delivereth these vnto yow. Only my desire is that for the good of that House & of the Protestant Cause in Germany yow would vse your best industry to move him to transport himselfe hither & to move for him towards others that some assistance of Money may be provided to put him in some Case, that when those that are resolved to rise in Armes for him & his Cause (which is their owne also) shall appeare & be in full readines, he may not be disenabled for want of a small matter of Money to joine himselfe vnto them in some considerable fashion. I entreate yow to thinke vpon this Proposition seriously & to conferre thereof with such as are most trusty. The Swedish advancement into Germany is but a Preparative to this which hath bin imparted vnto me. The Lord shew yow the wayes of Peace[altered] & Truth to the advancement of his Glory &c.
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                   Hague 7/17 Iuly.
I pray yow let Mr Borthwick & other good freinds that favour the Prince Electors Cause in the Parilament vnderstand, that there is a Party framing for Him in Bohemia & Hungaria, whereof I have assurance vnder Authenticall Declarations which have bin shewed vnto me by him whome the Leaders of the Party have entrusted the managing of their affaires towards Forraigners: he is a Man of good repute here, & doth assure me that this State will be ready to contribute 2. millions of florins for the furtherance of the plot & the arming of the Party against the House of Austria when things shall be brought to some maturity. Therefore he & I also do greatly wish that some meanes may be vsed to bring the Prince Electour over vnto these quarters & that his well affected friends would assist him with some supply to make him considerable amongst those that waite for an opportunity to rise with him. I pray yow conferre with our best affected Parliament Men to see what can be hoped to be done for him, & with Mr Borthwick to see how he might be brought hither with all speed with his Majesties permission. The Swedish offer to the Prince Electour of or any of the Princes Palatin their assistance if they would come to joine with them & bring some money or forces: but this is not the Party which I meane of; it is yet another Party which doth lie vnder deckes & will appeare rather for him then any to vindicate their owne Liberty. Ragozi as we are informed hath resigned his Government to his Sonne, & is in Armes himselfe [catchword: to]
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to joine with the Hungarians, who will have a new King. This is but a preparative to that Party which may be made for the Prince Electour, if he could be assisted with some money to become the Head thereof. The busines is negotiated allready very farre <H: with several Princes> & also with the Swedes[H alters] some thing hath bin done. I pray yow let me heare from yow what hopes there may be, to further this matter by your meanes.
               Hage 28 Iuly/7. August 1642.
As for the busines of the Prince Electour whereof I wrote vnto yow. I am bound partly by mine owne discretion partly by promise not to hazard the Revelation thereof for feare that it might be discovered before the time to such as would be able to hinder the progresse thereof: except therfore I had a sure hand I cannot well impart more then I have done, which is to tell yow that a new party is framing for the maintayning of that Cause for which the Prince Electour doth suffer; & that allthough the Swedish should prosper never so much (except they goe so farre as to put the Emperour quite out of his Throne & dissolve the Electorall Colledge totally & frame a new Government such as the Protestants could wish) they will appeare for themselves; & embrace the Palatin Howse <as> the the Head of their Party, if by any meanes He the Prince Electour can be made considerable with some assistance of Men & Money to come vnto them. He with whome I am acquainted here hath shewne me the Authenticall [catchword: Documents]
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Documents & obligations of those that are resolved to joine & his Plenipotence from them to sollicite assistance in due time. This doth make me earnest for the Prince Electour that it may be thought vpon before hand, how he might be holpen & assisted with a considerable summe to come over & be amongst them like himselfe. If God send yow an happy Accomodation of matters yow shall instantly know more of these matters, because he who is the cheife Agent therein shall come over vnto yow, but if yow fall more & more to dangerous Divisions it is but in vaine to move any further in it amongst yow; yet I would not let <have> yow to let the Motion fall, for we know not what God may produce, & how soone against all humane appearance your troubles may be composed; but I pray yow let nothing be blazed too much abroad of this Party or of any such plot in Agitation.
                   Hague 14/4 August.
The matter which I have motioned concerning the Prince Elector Palatin was imparted vnto me by him whose name yow have had to be marked with 229. He is authorised by the cheife men that intend the worke of a party in Bohemia to sollicite assistance from them: his plenipotence vnder a great many seales I have seene, & the way how the busines should be caried in due time is agreed vpon, only they waite for a fit season to appeare which will not be without the Prince of Transilvania & the Prince Electour if this can be made any way considerable. The soldiers of Sweden [catchword: come]
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come only to fetch a prey & in those parts to weaken the Emperour: nor should they that yow speake withall imagine that Ragozi would engage himselfe. If he should appeare he must have neighbours to go along with him whose strength is neerer at hand then Sweden is to Transylvania: therefore let not that be an argument of discouragement but rather of encouragement that Ragozi doth not appeare; because it is more answerable to the plot that he be quiet, although the Swedes prosper then that he should joine with them; for if they should be beaten or retire, which in end they will do, then he should be left in the lurch. As for the Prince Electour Palatine he will be lookt vpon as the head, because his interest is the same with that which others will seeke to advance vizt. the Liberty of Conscience & priviledges of State. I could wish that he might be so farre assisted as to retire into Denmarke to live there till matters were some way or other composed in Great Brittaine. For by this retreate he would be free from the Iealousies of both sides, & somewhat neerer the occasions that may fall out & the Party that is framing, only he must be able to subsist there like himselfe. And me thinkes his well willers could easily supply him with so much, & beleive it the Parliament cannot doe a better turne for themselves then to weaken the Austrian designes in Germany: for the Pope & Emperour bestirre themselves to trouble matters [catchword: in]
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in great Brittaine, cheifely for this end to divert yow from medling with forraigne affaires. Therefore to disappoint them of their plot, it would be very expedient to give encouragement to those that in Germany will be ready to shew themselves zealous for their liberty of Conscience & priviledges. It is the depth of their policy to fortify a Party in Great Brittaine against Protestancy to disturbe the quiet thereof: it would be in like manner a mighty advantage for vs against them to give them so much a do at home as that they shall haue little cause to thinke of disquieting vs. Howsoever things shall fall out amongst yow hereafter, the entertaining of this Motion is necessary for the Palatin affaires, & must not be let fall to the ground if by any meanes it can be vpheld seeing it is apparent that a Providence is still working for the restitution of that Howse, & that by the restitution thereof the protestant Cause will be maintained, & without it be restored there is no hope to keepe the libertie of our profession entire in Germany, & if there it be lost it will be every where els assaulted & diminished by plots or open violence as opportunity may be offered. Therefore to conclude I affirme that there is no readier way to free themselves from jealousies against the Prince Electour & Him from straits & inconveniences wherein he is harmlesly & inevitably wrapt as long as he stayeth in England if broiles continue, [catchword: &]
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& to helpe the Cause which they would advance which is true Protestancy in the Churches & in their owne State security from Austrian plots & attempts; I say to gaine all these ends there is no better nor expedite meanes then to furnish the Prince Electour with considerable assistance to go abroad in Denmarke & Germany to attend the occasions which will be offered to him in the present agitation & change of affaires. I pray yow let them consider that in this Counsell their owne safety is many wayes interessed. &c &c.
These Reasons yow may vpon occasion debate with them & entreate them not to hinder their owne advantages & the good of their friends with superfluous Iealousies.