The Hartlib Papers

Title:Copy Letter In Hand H, Martin Grundman To Hartlib
Dating:8 May 1660
Notes:Original is at 10/5/16.

      A Copy of a Letter, written to Mr Hartlib.
                  From Wales.
Honoured Sir,
      Such have been the times &various dispensations of our God, &my occasions, that it is long since I either did write to you, or heard from you: Though I must tell you, you are daily in my thoughts, according to your desire, then more especially in my approaches to God. But Providence now calling aloud vpon me, to make use of all my friends, not in a privat busines of my owne, but in a publick busines, concerning all good, sober, peaceable, &honest people in the County of Mountgomery, to whom should I make my griefe known but vnto you, &our worthy &ever honoured Friend Mr Dury; who are of such publick spirits, that allwayes you mind the good of the whole, though in a more especiall manner of the people of God. Sir, by the craftines of the old enemy, transforming himself into an Angel of Light, such as have acted formerly for the good &preservation of the peace of this Country vnder former powers, being all of them honest, godly men, many of them men of Estates &qvalities fit for the places, where with they were intrusted, have lately been put out of the Commission of the peace, others of the seed of the old Cavaliers (I am sorry[altered from sorrow] that I am forced to use such distinctions) vnder the name of moderat Gentelmen put in, as also in the Commission for the Militia, who intrust the most fierce &violentest of that sort, to apprehend vnder the notion of Fanaticks, not only Mr Powel &his Party with many poore innocent people, that were used to heare him preach (though never in arms) but also the most sober &godly Presbyterians, both Gentelmen &Ministers, as Mr Thomas Niccols of the Garth, by name, a sober, judicious, godly, and moderat Presbyterian, beloved of all people in the Country, even the sober &ingenious Cavaliers, who are troubled at his imprisoment: &Mr Thomas Toungue Doctor of Divinity, &Minister at Llandrinio, a very godly, qviet, harmlesse, but able &faithfull man, who I beleeve (were the truth known) is brought in vpon noe other score, but to please the humours of the Papists, who in his Parish doe sway [catchword: much]

much, &can not endure him: As also Mr Maurice Llayd- [line missed out: copying error] man, yet a man eminent for gifts &graces, and very hopefull, and I belee he is brought in vpon noe <H: other> score, but because he is a godly Presbyterian. For a great Gentelman told him, he was neither a Minister, nor member of the Church of England, &as we gather from others of their judgement, because not ordained by Bishops. For an Episcopal Minister said, That the imposition of the hands of the Presbyters was no more, then so many feet of the Crows on their head. So amongst many others, they have brought in Mr Iohn Kynaston, Mr Edward Vaughan, Mr Allen, who all of late were Iustices of the peace, did much good in their Country, &never were disturbers yet, nor the least suspicion of them. So that now wee see clearly, that their fury &malice is not set against Fanaticks, Sectaries, &prophane disturbers of the peace, but against goodnes &godlines, &against such as have boren the brunt of the day in opposing Anabaptists, [Qvackers? altered], &other Sectaries. And what shall I say more, we are not safe in our owne houses: for they doe what they list, take mens horses, &did last weeke shoot a brase of bullets in the dore of Mr Rushworth Minister of Mountgomery, &an other vnder his window, where one at the side of the window was sitting, ¬ above an inch betweene the man &the board, as they say that saw it. Some of them have also threatned to ravish all the wifes of round heads, &all this because they say, they are assured the King will passe an Act of oblivion for all; therefore they will act as high as they can. And many people seeing these actings of theirs, though well wishers to the King, are almost afraid of his comming in, by reason of these ranting and tearing blots, &dirtis cast on Religion, &all the professours thereof, in so much, that the vilest people care not what they say, &am afraid, shortly will not care what they doe to them, vnlesse a speedy remedy prevent them. Wherfore Sir, shall I importunat you &our honoured friend Mr Dury (we having none of our owne knights in the house, [catchword: to]

to which to make our griefe known) to serve God &his people in what you may. I assure you, as I shall answere it before God &his people, in what them that shall call me to an account concerning it, things are as I tell you, &thus Colonell Hunt the Gouvernour of Salop hath given an account of some passages, before I saw him, to some of the Councel of State, others to Colonell Harley, a member of the honoured House of Commons, others to some Ministers of London. Yet seeing, that a good work goes but slowly on, and good men greatly suffer by those that allwayes have vndone, &vndoubtedly will vndoe the King, vnlesse the good hand of Providence step in, &curb them. I thought in my duty to move you to informe with our State and Condition that famous Patron of Religion, &learning Sir William Waller, your old friend, Major General Brown, &Iudge Corbet, if acqvainted with them; as also others of your acqvaintances of Parliament, whom you shall thinck fit, humbly entreating them to conferre about it with Colonell Edward Harley, &to move it either at[altered from in] the Parliament or the Councel of State, that we may be freed from this violence &oppression, and that there may be care taken, that their old friends may not for the future be molested, they living honestly, righteously, &godly, doing nothing prejudiciall either to State or Church. And whereas they apprehend many vpon the account of Chester busines, because then they were in arms: these Gentelmen that I say are Presbyterians &moderat men, never medled in so much that we were suspected, &like to have been qvestioned, as though we had[altered from hath] had an hand in it. Sir, If you beare any Love to God, or his people (as I doe not qvestion but you doe, nay I know you doe) let me entreat you to make this your owne busines, &doe in it what you can; &I know your labour shall not be in vain. And I pray, let me heare from you as soone as conveniently you can give me an [catchword: account]

account what you have done in the busines, &what hope you have, &we shall pray for you and for those worthies. So next my humble service to Mr Dury, I commit you to the Lord, from whence our Salvation comes, &rest
                             Your most oblieged
                                 Friend &servant
                                   in the Lord
   Llandyssell May 8th
                                    M Grundman
P.S. This very day the Lord . . . . sets forth from Salop for London, who will give a very good account I beleeve of their proceedings, he being that great wheele that sets all others agoing, &so much the more hot, because in Chester busines some of Mr Powells party did deale something rufly with him. If he hath good grounds to proceed thus against them (though I like revenge in noe man) why doe they trouble such as are distinct &opposite to Mr Powell. Sir, though my Lord will speake well, yet to tell you sub rosa noe more but this: He is an Hater of all Godlines and good men. Sat Sapienti. If any should make use of his name, make use of it as you shall see good, but wisely, because he is a great man./